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  • #1280
    Richard S
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    Having looked at some more images it looks like the ends of the roof look to be moulded fibreglass or something similar. You’d be surprised how few pictures there are of roofs of coaches although this site was a good source.

    https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mark2coach

    More filler was used to create the raised roof ends which were then sanded back, which seemed to take forever.

    I also glued in the doors, roof vents and buffer beams that came from Floyd Kraemer on eBay. The roof vents were fitted by first marking out using a combination of the original layout on the Big Big Train coaches and images of ready to run 00 gauge coaches.

    Some plasticard steps below the doors were also glued on.

    I’ll cover the making of the chassis it’s sitting on shortly.

    #1285
    Richard S
    Participant

    And so to the chassis…

    The floor of the coach is made from a 3mm piece of aluminium that actually started life as the side door of an Apple G5 computer using band saw and a bench sander. (example picture taken from the Internet)

     

    #1286
    Richard S
    Participant

    The underbody furniture again came from Floyd Kraemer on eBay.

    I first mounted them in a similar way he has done in this picture to a piece of plasticard. I did this as the aluminium floor had to be at the right height for the buffer beams to be attached and also give the correct ride height. The plasticard sheet then spaces the centre section low enough for the underbody equipment to be at the right height.

     

     

    #1287
    Richard S
    Participant

    I have a choice of bogies.

    The ones that come with the original coach are OK, but not overly detailed, and would need the axles replacing anyway.

    I have a set of B4 bogies from easybuild

    http://www.easybuildcoaches.co.uk/TOP/BOGIE%20KITS.htm

    and a set from Floyd Kraemer.

    The black easy build bogies are definitely as the name suggests easier to build. (the bearing caps aren’t glued on in these photos)

    Floyd’s grey 3d printed ones are I would say more detailed, having brake pads and more underside detail. The axles are actually easy build ones which can be purchased separately.

    Easybuild do say they didn’t bother with the brake pads as you will be hard pressed to see them once the coach is on the track.

    I have found the 3d printed parts to be more fragile, and you may be able to see a slight bowing to the frame which I think happens as it cools/sets. The couple of nits of plasticard are rested on the top as spacers to bring that bogie up to the correct height.

    #1288
    Richard S
    Participant

    Here’s an image of it so far after having been sprayed matt black, unfortunately that means it doesn’t make it show up too well in photos.

    I still need to fit some Kadee couplings to both ends, come up with a way to how the body to the base other than gravity – probably magnets attach some seats and walls for a coach interior and perhaps add some brake rods and pipes.

    #1289
    Richard S
    Participant

    Painting…

    Looks like I didn’t take many pictures here -oops!

    Here’s one after final priming and sanding.

    #1290
    Richard S
    Participant

    For the top coat I used Railmatch paint (Stock photo)

    First spraying the body overall with Rail Blue then after leaving to dry for a few days masking off and spraying Rail Grey for the off white stripe along the windows.

    I first sprayed the roof in Diesel roof grey which is what is recommended, but it looked way too light, so went in to a model shop and just eyed up what looked about right which I think was GWR freight grey. In reality most coaches end up having slightly different coloured roofs.

     

    #1291
    Richard S
    Participant

    Here’s a picture I took as I was just starting to mask up for putting the white line transfers on around the grey window section.

    The lines from Fox’s as water slide transfers as a set of lines and corners (I used the smallest corners in the set. Once cut out with a scalpel you soak the transfer in warm water with a drop of washing up liquid for about 30 seconds before applying. The bottle of Micro Set is to both help the transfer to slide a bit and once set helps to stick better.

    The plan was to have a straight line of masking tape to use as a reference line.

    #1292
    Richard S
    Participant

    I found the best method was to tease one end of the transfer off with some pinpoint sharp tweezers and hold it down while pulling the paper out from underneath along its length, hopefully getting it roughly in the right place! Once it’s in roughly the right place I found you can lift the end of the transfer up and re-lay it in a better position if needed before teasing it in to position with the point of the tweezers by pushing it up against the masking tape. To get it ultimately as straight as line as possible I found pulling the transfer with the point of the tweezers along the length of the transfer working my way along about 5mm at a time drags it straight.

    As soon as I was happy with it I removed the masking tape before it had a chance to stick to the transfer (I was getting paranoid by this point)

    #1293
    Richard S
    Participant

    Problem is as you can see above is that the transfers aren’t long enough to do the full length of the coach, so a lot of fiddling was in solved in getting the second transfer to line up with a small amount of overlap.

    If I thought that was tricky putting the corners on was more so. they are so small you can hardly see what you’re doing (I’m convinced I now need some new glasses) and found the best way to see was to use my phone camera on full zoom as a magnifying glass.

    In this picture you as well as one of the corners in the process of being positioned you can also see some holes drilled for the grab handles next to the doors.

     

    #1294
    Richard S
    Participant

    The coach numbers and end information came from Railtec transfers. They will actually print out individual coach numbers for you on request. I worked out what numbers they should be from this site.

    https://uktransport.fandom.com/wiki/British_Rail_Mark_2#Numbers_built_.28BR_stock.29

    So far the ultimate in fiddlyness, (if that’s a real word) but I am amazed with thee detail of the lettering. I actually have a set of no smoking transfers to go on the inside of the windows once they are fitted. I have absolutely no idea how I am going to manage that!

    #1296
    Dave
    Keymaster

    I read his post thread again from the start to get the full picture. Great job and nice details!

    What you did to the roof with the small plasticart strips is very good.

    Looking forward to seeing the final result!

    #1297
    Richard S
    Participant

    It’s seems to have taken forever! Hopefully I’ll get it finished within a year 🙂

    #1298
    Richard S
    Participant

    Time to fit the windows.

    If you remember I made the windows way back before I glued on the frames. I’m glad I numbered them back then which made it easier now to match them up with the holes. They needed a little extra fettling to make them fit as there is now some paint to make the holes smaller.

    To attach them I used Microscale ‘Micro Kristal Klear’ which goes on milky like PVA but dries clear. It can be used either as a glue, or teased across smaller windows to make the glass itself. As the window pains are a tight fit I just use a little bit around the corners to hold them in.

    Now I was hoping that doing this would help stick the window frames in better, but I still had issues with a couple coming loose, so rather than use super glue which will make the window panes haze over, just used a bit more of the Micro Kristal to reattach them.

     

    #1299
    Richard S
    Participant

    For the toilet windows I added a piece of frosted binding page behind the window.

    And here it is from the outside.

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